14 comments

  • prymitive 41 minutes ago
    It’s mind boggling that in the UK there’s a law that says:

    > “A plank of wood must not be carried along a pavement. It can only be moved if it is being unloaded from a vehicle or taken into a building.”

    But big tech cannot be regulated at all. We used to regulate any minor thing that was annoying enough, but a whole industry spying and prying on the whole population is fine.

    • throaway3534621 13 minutes ago
      > But big tech cannot be regulated at all.

      It cannot be regulated because we let dollar/capital rise above political authority.

      • throaway3534621 7 minutes ago
        I remember watching this [1] couple of years ago wrt to capital; market; China; US and I'm starting to believe China's model is one we should strive for. Why isn't there AI scare/doom/replacement talk in China? It's because of that - the capital does not raise above the political authority.

        [1] Eric Li on the CCP and Capital's role in America, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzz5swYfVKk

    • eps 18 minutes ago
      Any rule is as good as its enforcement.

      The plank rule just exists, not enforced, so nobody observes it.

      Same will happen with the high-tech regulation. In fact, it is already happening left and right where it does exist.

  • gentlerain 24 minutes ago
    Samsung is starting to be a little too much creepy.

    I don't know if it's just greed or.

    I refused to create an account on their galaxy phone because of the mandatory phone number needed. Yes, I know they can harvest it in other ways, it's just a stand.

    • bayindirh 17 minutes ago
      If people can hustle for a little side money, corporations can do it as well. Why not?

      Corporations are considered persons and they need to pay shareholders.

      Seriously, it’s pure greed and people who love money enable this, because they think they are immune to this, or harmless.

  • jacquesm 9 minutes ago
    If they're doing this to TVs, what are they doing with phones?
  • breakingcups 38 minutes ago
    Who needs DRM like HDCP if you can just use the capabilities baked into the TV to your advantage?
  • jareklupinski 1 hour ago
    i wonder if the Samsung / LG stuff is how the stock market seemed so "predictable" to some people in early morning trading for a while... imagine having the keys to buckets containing all the plaintext gathered from all the tvs listening in conference rooms on earnings days...
    • gruez 43 minutes ago
      >how the stock market seemed so "predictable" to some people in early morning trading for a while

      Has this been quantified? Otherwise it's easy to fall for confirmation bias, eg. "facebook is secretly listening to you"

      • xg15 35 minutes ago
        > confirmation bias, eg. "facebook is secretly listening to you"

        Agreeing with your general point - don't jump to conclusions without evidence - but I don't like if we're now establishing the "Facebook/Google/Apple is secretly listening to you" rumors as the canonical example of that behavior, and thereby making those companies immune to further scrutiny.

        We've seen that by now there exist both the will and the technical means to pull off stuff like this, so even if it used to be a baseless rumor and urban legend, it deserves to be re-checked periodically, because companies might start to do it for real at some point. Samsung here actually did.

        (Google also came awfully close with its "song detector" which is now a stock Android feature I think)

  • Terr_ 41 minutes ago
    Y'all remember the Energy Star logo on computers?

    Maybe it's time for something like that, a shared baseline standard of "this thing won't spy on you", with massive financial penalties for companies caught lying about it. Prime adoption by making it a requirement for anything bought by the government.

    Then consumers can reliably comparison-shop for a "TV" that doesn't turn into a traitorous 1984 telescreen the moment it breaks out of the LAN or you fail to click "maybe later" on its incessant dark pattern pop-ups.

  • MarkWayneNewton 1 hour ago
    How else will they subsidize the cost of the jumbotron in your living room?
  • egamirorrim 1 hour ago
    This stuffs mad, should I be doing something to my Samsung TV to neuter it? Has anyone rolled all this up somewhere?
    • Gigachad 56 minutes ago
      There needs to be a class action against these companies. People should straight up go to jail for how invasive these TVs are.
    • ozgrakkurt 12 minutes ago
      Selling it off might be a good solution
    • chinathrow 1 hour ago
      Unplug it.
    • KetoManx64 55 minutes ago
      Do a search on X on the topic, the news about Samsung was broken on there by a guy who had rooted his Samsung TV using AI tools and he and others created guides for neutering the stuff out of it
    • matkoniecz 1 hour ago
      Not buy smart TVs and especially Samsung smart devices in general?

      From what I heard these are especially awful, even by low IoT standards.

      • Gigachad 56 minutes ago
        All smart TVs are evil and you’d be hard pressed to find a non smart tv these days.
  • killingtime74 1 hour ago
    It's as if an intern added it and then they just forgot about it.
  • hypfer 23 minutes ago
    Wasn't that used to squeeze better power efficiency etc out of the device by optimizing the parameters based on the content?

    I mean it is probably also used to collect data, but this sounds like it might be more than just that. Maybe?

  • cisc 31 minutes ago
    > ..its literally running.. ..It's literally called.. ..its literally AlexNet.. ..literally doesn't work..

    I'm not sure it's literal enough.

  • stavros 1 hour ago
    They're running it and then throwing away the result if you don't consent? Way to waste electricity...
    • Gigachad 55 minutes ago
      This is why TVs are always so laggy, they have 400 ad and tracking scripts running the whole time.
  • unstatusthequo 1 hour ago
    I sure wish Tizen was rooted. I’d love to custom flash over the slow ass Samsung UI.
    • BlackRabbit1 1 hour ago
      Time to invest a few tokens into an unneuthered model
      • SSLy 1 hour ago
        Is there anyone serving such inference? I can't fit anything usable on my hardware.
        • FredFS456 1 minute ago
          https://abliteration.ai/

          But also if you're working on a local device, any Chinese model will agree to it most of the time.

        • Jolter 56 minutes ago
          I believe Mistral models are fairly capable at cybersecurity tasks, but I don’t think you could get anything useful out of anything smaller than Mistral Large 4.
  • lousken 1 hour ago
    now is the best time in history to buy a tv

    just hack it right after purchase and own the glass

    • thenthenthen 32 minutes ago
      Dont buy a tv? I havent had a TV for 20 years.